Monday, January 26, 2026

Fixing the Image Center

THE PROBLEM

Nowadays I mostly use the "Movie EQ," which optimizes the back of the room listening position.  It definitely works best for background music anywhere in the house.  The "Hotseat EQ" only works good at the "Hotseat" a few feet from the speakers, where I do really really serious listening.  But I've hardly had any time for that recently, and it also requires dragging the listening chair into the Hotseat position and putting it back afterwards, which I'm generally too lazy to do.  I've been keeping the living room ready to show a movie on short notice, and I've typically been watching one movie per week with friends.  And most of the listening I do is background music listening anyway, for which the Movie EQ works best.

Back when I last fixed the Movie EQ in September 2025, I simply removed the midrange EQ's  from 200-1000 Hz which had been worked up for the Hotseat EQ in 2024.  At the back of room position, they did more harm than good.  I didn't really have time to cook up a new Movie EQ for the midrange, as I had done for the Hotseat EQ a few years before.  I left unchanged the upper frequency EQ's, whose basis was mostly subjective (objectively they caused some rolloff above 2k, which I rationalized as the "extended Gundry/Linkwitz dip" needed for large dipolar panel radiators like my Acoustat 2+2's).  The resulting response looked flat enough and it sounded great in the back of the room.  I felt it was nearly as good as the Hotseat EQ is at the Hotseat position, but without all the fiddly midrange adjustments.  Anti-EQ fans would naturally think it better with less EQ also.

But there was a very annoying flaw in the ointment.  If I adjusted the two channels so they were at the same measured SPL level on pink noise, AND the same subjective loudness when played one speaker at a time, the center of a stereo image often seemed to be on the right side, just about at the position of the right Acoustat speaker!  Often lead performers who I knew had to be in the center was coming from the right.  That kind of thing bugs the crap out of me.

I just had to correct that somehow.  The quick fix I came up with then was to attenuate the right channel by a whopping 3.4dB in the Tact digital preamp.  By mid January 2026, 4 months later, I had found no better way to center the stereo image at the movie seating position.  No other change seemed to help enough, and when I went back to a test of some kind to re-set the "balance" I still end up having to attenuate the right side by 2-4dB.

Also no other device in my chain lets me control the relative channel levels, something I find very annoying as I think all the digital processors I have should do that, especially the Behringer 2496's which does have a digital gain compensation but only for both channels at once, which it should have because it has per-channel EQ's.

Sadly it seems I have rarely paid any attention to the LEVEL controls in the Tact that can be used to set the L-R balance.  I didn't take a single picture of the Tact settings in September 2024 when I did a big system re-tune for the hotseat.  I think I have long attenuated the right channel by something like at least 2dB without paying any attention to it.  So, perhaps the "off balance" thing is not new, I'm just paying more attention to it, and I think it has gotten worse in the Movie EQ scenario than it was before.

Even that 3.4dB right attenuation is a conservative estimate.  If I just play with the right attenuator using my remote control, and go back and forth until I get the most centered image with a mono signal, I typically end up with something more like 6.5dB.  I'm horrified by having it set that high, so I then back off until just before the image solidly flips to the right again.  And that point is about 3.4dB.   If I want to dial it in so that it starts seeming to come from the left, it takes a whopping 9dB attenuation on the right side.

Early Thoughts

Likely Room Acoustics, but how?

At first I strongly suspected that room acoustics is weirdly involved in this, including the kitchen doorway a few feet to my right (I think that allows energy to leave the room from the left speaker which is more aimed to it, whereas the corner on the left amplifies the right more.  But any explanation involving "amplification" by room acoustics has to contend with the issue of why when the channels are set to the same level, with 0dB of attenuation for both, the channels sound equally loud when played by themselves*, and there is no weakness at all on the left side, and at -3.4 dB the right yet by itself sounds clearly muted compared with the left.  And yet, with the two channels sounding obviously different in level, that attenuation is required to get a solid centered center image.

(*To listen to each channel by itself is hard in my system, and I put that obvious test off until recently.  I have no buttons to do this kind of test easily, I can't even just disconnect a speaker wire because there are also the subs.  I have to run down the attenuator on the Tact digital preamp for one channel in the LEVEL menu to -99.9 dB, which takes quite awhile, and worse is that I have to try to remember what the attenuator was previously set to, which I nearly always forget to do, or don't bother to write it down.  Doing so requires crouching down, I now avoid getting on my knees, and remembering which button is the menu button to pull up the level menu.  Then finding piece of paper and pen to write it down, because I'll immediately forget.  So doing this requires a lot of time and steps.  It would sure be nice to have Left-only and Right-only buttons. But I don't see such a thing, only in rare cases (like the Marantz 2270) buttons that will play the left or right input from one channel to two channels, which is not at all what I want nowadays.)

I think perhaps the greater room amplification of the right side could mean that if the room modified levels are the same, the direct response is actually lower on the right.  Putting my ear up to the speaker, however, there appears to be no weakness on the left side either, it seems clearly louder than the right side when the right side is attenuated by 3.4dB.  So why oh why must it be louder so I can get a centered image?

 Frequency Response Differences

Another explanation is that there may be certain unbalanced bands in the frequency response, like the suckout which I can't easily fix on the left side around 125 Hz (but it's narrow).  That suckout is related to the rear wall reflection and the inevitable finite baffle of the planar speaker.  It is not related to things that could be different about the speakers themselves.  But there could be other band differences that do relate to differences between the speakers.

Dynamic and Non-Linear effects

And there could even be, I am thinking now, certain non-linear effects.  The right side might have dynamic loudness increases due to distortions of some kind, such as could be introduced by failing electrolytic capacitors or transformers in the speaker interface.   Counterintuitively, distortion can make things sound louder because harmonics are being added.

I hardly want to get into the differences between the two speakers.  I generally think of them as quite minor.  They both feature the final Acoustat 2+2 "C Mod" modified interface, one side has a stock interface originally made that way (in the small Hafler designed box) and the other has an interface modified to be C Mod by a famous Acoustat restorer/upgrader.  So they're both C Mod, which is the most important thing, that affects the frequency response, the loading, and many other factors.  Now the factory C Mod box also has the Medallion transformers, and the other side does not, but those transformers were not said to affect the static performance, including the loading, frequency response, anything like that, only the higher output capability from freedom from overloading.  So in just that way, as an example, dynamic response could be a factor.  But the improvement wrought by the Medallion Transformers is said to be only at the highest listening levels, and I'm no where near those, so I discount the possibility that this is the issue, but it could be.  Also the C Mod itself reduces the transformer overloading issue too, further making the possibility that this is the issue unlikely.

Investigations

Mono Mode


I began investigating the issues in December.

The first thing I did was put the Tact into Mono mode.  Then there should be a center image at the exact midpoint between the two speakers on every recording.

I left it that way mostly until the present as I am writing this report.

I noticed even with 3.4dB attenuation on the left, sometimes some things still seemed to be coming from the left, and those things tended to be higher pitched, like flute, though not cymbals.

Adjusting the EQ

So I then though I should use some kind of banded stimulation test.  I used to hand sweep 1/3 octave pink noise, but I haven't used the equipment I used for that purpose in a very long time.  What's more commonly available now is warble tones, Stereophile Test Disk 3 has a nice set for the Bass Decade, Midrange Decade, and High Decade.


Both sides have pre-existing cuts at 2.7kHz, 5.2kHz, and 9.0 kHz, though they differed in amplitude.  Back in September, when I took these photos, they had varying midbass boosts, one at 133 Hz and the other at 183 Hz.  Those seemed to be required in the back listening position.  I don't like EQ boosts, but I thought this was needed and OK.  Sometime later, however, I removed the 183 Hz boost from one channel but not the 133 Hz from the other.

Left Channel "Movie EQ" September 2025


Right Channel "Movie EQ" September 2025


Since it seemed the image pulled to the right, the obvious thing to do seemed to be to be to reduce the sizes of the HF cuts on the right.  I did so by a few dB on each cut.  That seemed to help on the warble tones themselves.

Still, it seemed I couldn't quite balance the tones at 9kHz and above.  I cranked up the HF control all the way to maximum.  That seemed to balance the highest tones.

It was only then that I decided to listen to the speakers themselves.  With the new adjustments, the left side sounded loud and bright, the right side sounded way softer and heavily rolled off.

I then tried reducing the cuts on the right side.  I cannot easily change the attenuator on the right side, so I didn't do that.  That made the right sound more like the left when played by itself.

Now thinking the right to be slightly bright, and unbalanced there, I reduced the HF attenuator back to the midway position it had been at before.  I was totally mistaken in thinking the right side needed boosting, or less cut, because it was wearing out or something.

And even with modified boosts, blindly setting the balance by adjusting the left attenuation still seemed to end up around 3dB.

Speaker Angle and Position

I started to notice the angle of the right speaker was just a tad more on axis.  With the Acoustats, you generally never want to be exactly "on-axis."  That was certainly true with the 1+1's, maybe less so (or not?) with the 2+2's.  You want to be off the axis of the speaker.  Acoustat specifically recommended listening off axis by some amount up to you. 

Many people do this by having the speakers parallel to the wall behind them.  I prefer to call this "Zero Toe In," though some people define the toeing relative to the listener rather than the rear wall, which might not be a straight wall.   My friend George was a true believer in the Zero Toe In principle as I'm defining it (and he called it that too) and that anything else was infidelity.  That was one of his most foundational rules, going back to the early 1980's if not before, so he hardly ever talked about it, except when visiting anyone who did otherwise.

I've never seen any particular reason for Zero Toe In, but if you do it of course you will be off axis from the speaker, by some amount varying as to how far you are sitting back.  And there's the rub.  You might need to get very far back for the Zero Toe In to be correct relative to you.  An easy solution is to toe in the speakers by some amount, but never by enough to put them on axis with you, the listener, at the hot seat position.  That way you have more freedom to determine how far back your are going to listen, and therein is an even longer story.

I ended up choosing both the serious listening position AND the toe-in following the advice of another friend, Tim.  Tim emphasized getting as wide a stereo angle as possible, but just short of being too wide for the stereo image to collapse.  Unless you have a very wide room, and I have a rather narrow room after you account for bookcases and furniture, this means sitting rather close to the speakers.  This gives me about 45 degree angle to the center of each speaker.  If I go in closer to the speakers, the stereo image begins to "collapse" (actually, it begins to lose a center, everything seems to be coming from everywhere, so perhaps it would be better to say it "explodes").

Once you have that chosen, you angle a pair of electrostats outward from being on the listener axis, just before the highs begin to really roll off, Tim advised.  The point was also to enable as much stereo separation as possible.  The more off-the-listening-axis the speaker is, the more it's going to stimulate the ear on the other side of the head even less.

Tim's advice gives me astonishing realism, when I'm willing to bother to move the listening chair into the exact correct position.

From the more semi-casual listening position in the back of the room, the speakers might be better aimed more off-the-listening-axis, which is to say less toed in.  George's zero toe-in strategy might even be correct...for the back of the room.

Here the stereo angle has also already been reduced from around 45 degrees to more like 22 degrees, so there is far less stereo spread.  You might think this would make the center "tigher" but actually it has the effect of making everything "looser," probably especially because of room acoustics.

But I'd really rather not have a special toe in for each listening position.  I'd rather leave speaker toeing at what's best for the 'serious' position in front, and try to cope with that somehow in the back.  The back is never going to have the astonishing stereo spread of the front.

I did correct the angle of the right speaker, so it's slightly less on-axis, and matching the right side, and that did seem to improve things, but not enough to change the right channel attenuation needed more than a fraction of a dB.

I tried pushing the right speaker back by a very tiny amount (there is not much space and they are incredibly hard to move now that they've sunken down into the carpet for a few years...and they have built-in cork feet).  But counterintuitively, that only seemed to make the image center even more to the left, so I quickly tired of that kind of adjustment.  That and I'm strongly inclined to believe the timing is near perfect to begin with, so I actually haven't experimented with that yet, and it would also be something to consider.

It's hard to measure the exact speaker to wall distances, because there are different things on the wall in either case, such as the window on the right side.  But with the angle corrected now, the two speakers measure the same to the closest inch if not half inch, comparing both speakers on the inside and on the outside.

Digital Delay

After all that, I finally got around to playing with the digital delay.  When I did this, I had a modified version of the HF eq's, and the 133 Hz boost on the right side.

Based on the effect when moving the speaker about 1/2 inch back, I didn't expect much, but right away, as little as 0.3 msec delay on the right seemed to fix the warble tones around 2khz, but less so higher up.

I wouldn't expect a phase difference to have an effect so great, after all we don't localize based on phase above 2kHz or so.

Starting All Over


If a phase difference is involved, I reason I really needed to start all over.  I set all the parametric EQ's to zero, I set no attenuation Left or Right, and No Delays either, now guess what.  Roughly speaking, it sounds pretty well centered!

It sounds wonderful in other ways too.  Far more dynamic among them.  I'm thinking I'm going to keep it with no panel EQ for awhile.

From this starting point, a small amount of delay seems to lock in the center even better.  Playing a cello concerto, I seemed to get the best center around 0.13 ms delay on the left side. Yes, the Tact allows me to adjust delay in 0.01 ms increments.  0.13 ms is about an 1.76 inches of delay.  This is so much easier to do than moving the speakers, and I can do it from the listening position, and lock in the exact right amount of delay.  Not that's it's always easy to do, or I can come up with the exact same number every time.  I can also seem to get it centered by delaying the right side...

Weirdly. playing either wideband music like a symphony orchestra, or pink noise. what happens as I advance the left channel delay is that the sound moves from the left speaker grudgingly toward the center, the sticks to the center for awhile until it almost jumps to the right, then doesn't stay there very long but wraps around again to the other side, and then around and around.  So it seems the entire bit of localization by delay discrimination has an effect centered at some frequency I could calculate from the distance between the two speakers.  Since it's a repeating pattern, you could be off by enough for it to seem "right" again, at least in part.  But that would be a pretty significant amount of offness, which would probably be noticeable in other ways.

So it seems that adjusting the delay is the number one step in fixing the center image, after the two speakers are pretty well balanced etc.  Also peculiar to electrostatics, getting the angle enough off axis to avoid beaming.

*** Update

I'm frequently adjusting the delay by ear to 0.2 to 0.3 ms now.  That would be like less than 2-5 inches of physical adjustment, which would be near impossible.

I wonder why it should be that big because the speaker distances from the wall are as close as I can measure, and they look that way.  Perhaps level and frequency response still need to be made closer.  Perhaps just as I was using channel level as a cure-all, perhaps I am now using delay as a cure-all.

I can't move the right speaker straight back because that would interfere with the preamp and related electronics.  I could move it back sideways perpendicular to the listening position...but that would require a comparable adjustment on the other side which is impossible--the right speaker is as far to the right as I can possibly get it without making it impossible to work on the electronics there, I can barely squeeze past it now.

It's still shocking to me how easily as little as 0.03 ms can be heard when you are at the listening position with remote control.  This is one more possibility of digital "preamplification" as in my system, and I believe it is the way to go.  The Tact 2.0 is a pretty good digital preamplifier, though it frustratingly lacks a few features I'd like.  It does have the essential digital volume (and with digital "gain"), digital per-channel attenuation and delay, and even Mono (though all buried in menus) along with the signature Room Correction System I only used briefly, preferring to do my own thing, and even the rarest of the rare Polarity (but per-channel, and inconveniently there is no way to switch the polarity of both channels simulatenously, to instantaneously A/B Absolute Polarity).

I've been progressively toeing the speakers away from the back listening position.  It's clear now that the right speaker was too much on-axis compared to the left and even in absolute terms.  Both speakers have a micro-beaminess just around the dead center.  One needs to be off-axis by at least 1 degree to get around that, and probably more is better up to somewhere between 2 and 5 degrees.  I have limited experience with this on the 2+2, which are entirely different from the 1+1 I explored more.  Internally the 2+2's have two stacks of vertical panels which are angled from one another.   The 1+1 is just a single stack of panels.  With the 1+1's you needed to be way off axis to get away from beaming.  Zero Toe In might be good for that speaker.  With the 2+2's you can be pretty close to on axis and it's pretty good, just not exactly on axis.  Before these investigations I never paid much attention to how much the speakers were on-axis in back.  Before I started, the Right speaker was almost exactly on axis, a very bad situation.  On axis, it sounds like everything is coming from the speaker, you just can't get around that.

This is compromise stuff because if I toe the speakers to optimize the back position it will screw up the front "serious" listening position.

The ideal compromise is probably somewhere around 1-2 degrees off axis in the back, and 3-4 in front, 3-4 degrees probably being optimal.

When you get both delay and speaker angle correct, movement across the hot seat causes the image center to shift slowly to the right as you move right, and slowly to the left as you shift left.  

It doesn't flop over to the right with the slightest right head movement like it did before, nor resist moving to the left until you were way on the left side after which it would go all the way to the left speaker in one go, just like it was doing on the right but taking a much longer distance than for the right.  (That requires getting both the speaker angle AND the delay correct.)

I may have to do EQ to the top end again, though for now I'm enjoying the added dynamics, immediacy and excitement.  Just once in awhile it seems too much, when I get the "turn it off" feeling.  Also the midbass, I might bring back some boosting.








Monday, October 27, 2025

Fixing Movie EQ midrange

I have not yet connected the midrange EQ unit (whose signal output ultimately feeds the Acoustat 2+2's) to the midi sender (controlled by my home automation system) which selects the first or second EQ settings automagically, but I have set up the first 4 memories just like the bass EQ unit now (also carefully moving old EQ settings in those positions to the end of the list of settings, I still have plenty more memory slots until 99).  

So even without midi, I could select the applicable memories by hand whenever I need to, which I hardly ever do anymore, simply by loading the 'Hotseat' memory #2 or the 'Movie' memory #1.  Nowadays it's mostly on the Movie memory because that works best for background listening because in most other positions in the house (other than the hotseat position, which is the oddest, naturally) the Movie EQ has the flattest bass, eliminating a lot of boom, except in certain weird places like the corner of the kitchen where some of my equipment is that I have to fiddle with a lot, naturally.

At first glance of the RTA shown previously, the midrange EQ settings from 1kHz down to 20 Hz make no sense, if anything I'd guess they make matters worse.

Perhaps they are there because of 'seat' reflections.  Here I might note that I've long intended to get a more acoustically transparent seat.  In fact I bought the current chair in 2008 with the hopes of getting it modified to have a low back with a small headrest.  I liked the 'feel' of the chair then.  (Now it needs a bottom cushion because the bottom foam is shot, without a cushion you can feel the springs). I had debated getting more expensive chairs, but I thought that starting with a cheap one would allow me to modify it...

Well, I no longer have expendable income for things like that.  I'd love to get a pair of low back felt padded oak chairs, but I can hardly ever find the ones I want online.  And they only sell them in sets of 4, so the one time I did find them, I thought that didn't suit me.

Anyway, since I'm keeping the old EQ settings for the 'Hotseat' EQ for now, and sometimes I can retest those as well, and perhaps with a more acoustically transparent chair...

The best approach for the movie EQ starting point looked to be to simply remove all the EQ's below 1kHz.  Then, when I get around to it, I can sweep that region and decided what EQ's are really needed for the standard 'Movie' position in the back loveseat, starting from scratch which is always best anyway.

But just in my 'sighed listening test' here (I know that I did the modification, so I'm probably biased in favor of it sounding better):

It sounds way better.  The midrange is far more transparent.  'Palpable' as Harry Pearson sometimes said.

So we'll see if redoing the EQ's can make it even better.

At some point, it may be good to re-check the subjective effects of the EQ's above 1khz as well, which were designed by subjective effect...with the old chair and everything.




Friday, September 12, 2025

Kitchen Hum was back and now fixed again

A lot of things relevant to the kitchen electronics have happened in the last year, and not surprisingly the hum is back.  It's an annoying hum I can hear when neither the refrigerator nor the dishwasher is running.

With just the power amp running, and the Yamaha receiver which provides the signals to it is off, the left channel noise measured 0.54 mv (measured at the left speaker terminals with my A-Weighted Meguro noise meter).

With the receiver turned on, the hum rises to 0.74 mv showing that some of the noise is being caused by the receiver.  But less than half.

With shorting plugs in the amplifier, the noise drops to 0.078 mv, nearly 20dB lower.

So hardly any noise is being caused by the power amplifier.

I tried removing several different connections (not all at once because I'd lose track and it would take days to get it all back together) from the receiver and none had much effect so far.

Before even doing these measurements, I moved or checked the routing of the power cord to the power amplifier, which *seemed* to have made a big difference last time.  Whatever moving I did made no difference audibly.

A very well shielded Blue Jeans LC-1 interconnect is being used.

So today I removed everything except the preamp outputs, and noise dropped to 0.1 mV with the Yamaha off, and 0.18 mV with the Yamaha on, and no audible hum.

So I started re-connecting, starting with the coax digital inputs which I thought I had individually tested the day before.  Now it was different.  Adding the Pioneer LX70 digital input was what created the audible hum with measured noise at around 0.4mV.

So, I disconnected everything from the LX70.  What ultimately made the difference was the HDMI output, which connects to my Wolfpack HDMI switch.

So I tried disconnecting HDMI sources which had been added this year: the Tivo and the new security cameras.  The Tivo was what made most of the difference.

I bought a special power cord for the Tivo to be sure it was plugged into the same AV rated UPS as everything else, including the power amplifier.  That wasn't enough.  The Tivo antennas are both indoor antennas but one is on the other side of the room and has a long coax.  That runs through a UHF/VHF joiner.

So I don't understand why the Tivo should be a problem, but I had a simple solution, use an ground isolation transformer on the LX70 audio output.

For some reason the LX70 does not have optical digital outputs, only coax.  I could use a digital coax to SPDIF converter, but all the ones I have are either in use or broken.  That's a very common trick I use to break ground loops.

So this time, I thought I would attempt to use a ground loop isolation transformer for component video, which has approximately the same bandwidth as coax digital, a Jensen Iso-max VB-1 RR.

Jensen Iso-Max VB-1 RR




It works great, noise with the Pioneer connected to the Yamaha and the Yamaha running is a 0.15mV and there is no audible hum.  The audio from the Pioneer works fine (and this is really only a "convenience" input anyway, when I'm making videos on the Pioneer which I hardly do anymore, and the audio output is for non-critical monitoring.  But I hear no problems, no underwatery garbled sound like you get from way too much jitter, and no dropouts.  I'm not going to bother to measure it with my jitter meter today.  The isolation transformer may have bandwidth equal or greater to the coax to optical converters, which lose a lot of bandwidth themselves.

I turned out that the coax from the Pioneer wasn't the only source of problems.  There was also the analog output from the Pioneer.  The analog output is needed if you are recording from an analog source, as the Pioneer will not output analog sources to its digital ouputs.  I decided to do without that feature except when needed by keeping the cables unplugged.

It figured that analog and digital cables from the Pioneer were infected with the ground loop.  AND, if I were disconnecting just one thing at a time, as I did the first night of these tests, I would NOT catch problems like this, which is why the correct approach is to do what I finally did: disconnect all the cables not needed and add them back in one at a time.  AND it helps to have an accurate noise meter, because relying on auditory memory is futile.

There was also a problem with the analog surround outputs which go to a chifi preamp for adjustment and routing.  That chifi preamp has (uncharacteristically for preamps) a grounded plug, AND there is not external ground lift switch.  Even though the things is made like a brick pool house, I decided to continue with the safety orientation and not lift the ground with a grounding "cheater" adapter.

So instead I pulled out another isolation transformer, a Jensen CI-2RR for stereo audio, and connected that between the Yamaha receiver and the Chifi preamp.  Problem solved.


Jensen Iso-max CI-2RR

Ultimately with everything plugged back in and running (except the Pioneer LX-70 analog connections) noise measured 0.18 mV.  Hum is just about inaudible with ear to speaker (this "just about inaudible" can seem louder sometimes when it's quieter, making it essential to have a meter, though it would be more helpful if my meter only measured hum, which it doesn't).

I could have used another Jensen CI-2RR for the Pioneer LX-70 analog outputs, but I don't have any more spares.


Monday, September 1, 2025

Tuning the "Movie" EQ

 Nowadays I'm keeping my room more and more in "movie" configuration, with no chair in the "hot spot."  The closest thing is the loveseat in back.  But along the back wall, the hot seat EQ is very boomy.  So I created a second EQ for the back, which is the Movie EQ.

Well it's becoming clear that the Movie EQ might well be better for most background listening, which is what I do most of the time.  So it looks really like the Movie EQ should be the default, and the Hot Seat EQ should be the 'Special.'  Well, that's exactly how I did things in my previous generation of less-well-tuned EQ's, when I had "Normal" (now Movie) and "Boost" (now Hot Seat).

But the Movie EQ was a giant hack which I did, after months of tuning the hot seat EQ, I simply added a graphic EQ overlay to dampen the excess bass along the back wall.  I realized then I should re-do the Movie EQ from scratch, or at least so it isn't an EQ on top of an EQ, but the original EQ simply tailored for that position.

That was about the time I discovered the polarity problem with my DEQ, which made it complicated to do the in-position adjusting my method requires.  Then it turned out I could buy a brand new DEQ, and I did, and I now have that.  But then many other urgent situations arose: needed were new dishwasther, new computer, new phone, new security system, ceiling repair, foundation repair, under slab drain repair, and ultimately a new car, which I just drove home last week.  It's been a busy year, and that's just part of it.

But for a week, it seemed I had some time (which is now evaporating) and just did some measurements of the current state.  The adjustments are the same, but the hot seat has been moved to the side so the room is in movie viewing configuration but without the screen set up, which is pretty much the norm except when I'm doing Serious Listening, maybe once a week or so.

I'm using the iPhone 8 I used for previous measurements again.

First I measured the background noise:

Background Noise

Then, the response at the old "hot seat" location, but with the actual chair moved to the side:

Hot Seat Location Without Chair

There's a notable dip at 31 Hz, otherwise pretty smooth to 1k then rolled off as intended.  I don't remember that dip from the earlier measurements.  Anyway this is "invalid" without the chair at that position anyway, I just wanted to take a look.  Actually it looks like it may need some analyzing.  Perhaps something is wrong or changed.  It was nearly flat 20-1000 Hz.

And while I was doing this looking, I decided to try turning off the Bag End E-Trap, which is currently in the corner of the hallway connected to the living room, where there is normally a HUGE bass boom.  The trap clearly reduces the boom in the hallway and the first bedroom, but what effect does it have on the living room response???  It was supposed to help that by cancelling the boom which gets reflected back to the living room.

Above, but no E-Trap

Well, strangely enought, the no E-Trap version perhaps looks better, though the depression IS extended higher up, it doesn't go as deep.  Actually, it's not clear which is better, because the greater depression at 31 Hz probably isn't as audible as the broader depression going up to about 45 Hz with no E-Trap.  I decided to leave the E-Trap on for now, because at least it removes the boom in the hallway, and reflected bass from the hallway probably isn't great even if it does make the RTA response look better.

I repeated these measurements (made with my iPhone stand adapter, same as last year's adjustments) and got identical results.  It wasn't just random variation, the effect of the e-Trap on the RTA response is fully confirmed, it produces a deeper but less wide bass depression.

Either way, it looks like some fixing may already be required in the hot seat response, though it is still quite good.

Back at the loveseat, but using the hot seat EQ, things are much worse.

Back Wall, Hot Seat EQ

Let's see how well my Movie EQ fixes this:

Back Wall, Movie EQ

Well, it's not too bad below 125 Hz, which is about all the current setup which changes only the bass EQ can do.  It looks like I have to get another midi cable or something and control have two EQ's for the panels too.  In fact, fixing the irregular midrange response (which has may have something to do with hout it is 'flattened' at the hot seat) looks more important at this time, though the RTA is hiding the fact that the fairly smooth bass response is EQ on top of EQ, which intrudes some issues of it's own, so it is still workth re-doing the bass EQ for the Movie EQ so it's done simply with one set of EQ's.

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I charged ahead and adjusted the new movie EQ by sweeping, cutting, and fine tuning with pink noise.  I was able to get both channels reasonably flat in the bass with just 4 PEQ's on the left and a remarkable 2 PEQ's on the right.  It's flatter than before on the pink noise.

I first used a -5dB "Gain Adjustment."  I'd never realized before testing it now that I could have a different gain adjustment in each EQ memory slot.  -5dB was still giving considerable rise in the bass overall measured at the back center seat.  So I went to -10dB on Sunday morning and that permitted adjustment to virtually flat, my new standard as of last year (I decided flat with no boosted bass "room curve" was the best of all).  (The other EQ, now called the Hot Seat EQ, effectively uses a higher bass level to permit filling the depression in the middle of the room without any EQ boosts as such, just lots of cuts.)

I whipped this up pretty quickly but I decided it was so good I'd better "ship it" as we used to say in the audio modification store backroom, as in ship it before we mess something else up.

I can now play Bass Erotica a full levels without it sounding just awful.  It's actually musical now, I can follow the bass lines in background positions all over the house, not just boom boom.

Left Channel, new Movie/Background Adjustment


Right Channel, new Movie/Background Adjustment


Right Channel PEQ's

Left Channel PEQ's

I was listening in background on the evening of September 14, and I decided it was too bass shy.  So I bumped the gain compensation from -10dB to -9dB, and reduced the 2-octave cut centered at 45.3 in the Left channel from -6.5dB to -5.5dB.   I allow myself to make small changes like these by ear when they also seem sensible too, even if possibly the measured result might "look" a bit worse.

It might not have needed this change in the center seat in back but elsewhere.

Saturday, March 15, 2025

Eisenson's Revenge Chapter 99

Eisenson was the audio salesman and tinkerer who my friend George will never forgive for having an out-of-phase speaker system.

I myself have made so many major mistakes, often for weeks or months at a time, that you really do have to wonder.  Of course I believe that you can get an intoxicating effect, not to mention appreciation of music, or just plain old enjoyment out of a seriously out-of-whack sytem (as long as it doesn't sound extra harsh or annoying).  To deny that is to be a bit smug, I have always felt.  Also, one can't always be deploying one's inner audio engineer to ensure that all aspects of reproduction are technically correct.  Most of the time, one simply wants to enjoy.  I know Eisenson got great pleasure from the far reaches of the high frequency response, and perhaps when paying most attention to that he ignored the reduction in bass (or it was even helpful...).  It has always been my view that no one 'reproduction' is perfect, and many are good enough in one way or another to reveal some facet of the music with greater clarity.

Well in my latest mistake, I apparently had the subwoofers totally turned off since some experiment, perhaps written about here, from weeks ago.

I first noticed that when I selected the "movie" mode (which reduces bass in the periphery to make it less peaky there) it had little effect.  Then a week later I figured the exact cause of this discrepancy.  First I noticed one sub turned off (I remembered thinking "I'll notice this right away") and also the DAC muted (I had to do that for the other channel).  I was doing some kind of impulse test, perhaps before the first recent LP recording a few weeks ago).

My crossover is at 125 Hz, so a sub loss cuts out quite a bit of real bass.  But it all sounded fine.  (I wasn't doing much if any serious listening, the room has mostly been set up for showing movies and I've been to lazy to move the listening chair into the center.  But I might have listened to an LP or two, thinking it sounded a bit dry.  And then I wondered why recordings sometimes sounded better on my kitchen system when I was mastering them than in my living room system where I was recording them.  All clues I ignored, until I didn't.


Friday, March 7, 2025

Re-testing the antiskating force

 I've picked up some used records (from deceased or moving audiophiles) and started recording them (while often inspires me to record some of my own--which are usually better).

Occasionally I've noticed some groove chatter in mostly one channel which made me think antiskating was wrong.

I always run my Dynavector D17 version 3 (Diamond Cantilever) moving coil cartridge at maximum tracking force, 2.25g, but for awhile around 2022 I was running the antiskate near the maximum setting of 3.5g on the Ittok LVII.  That had two benefits.  For one it seemed to track better on some high velocity test I used, and it seemed to provide useful additional horizontal damping.

At some point I changed the antiskating back to 2.6...I now can't remember if that was just "temporary" (because it passed the silent groove) or part of a series of tests (perhaps reported here).

So the present mistracking was bugging me, perhaps 2.6 was too low and I needed to go back to 3.5.

I first tried the silent area (not a "groove" as such) test on my Orion test record (the one I bought most recently as "unused").  2.6g antiskating force nails it.

But it always occurs to me that silent area tests don't simulate the additional skating force that occurs in heavy modulation.  So I ran the 5 band tracking force test on the same Orion record.

That's a killer test because, contrary to what the announcer says, there are probably few if any cartridges that can play all 5 bands.  It starts at the maximum nominal level and goes up from there.  It's harder than the tests on Shure test records.

With 3.5g antiskating, I couldn't play band 4 without serious distortion.  With 2.6g antiskating, I could play band 4 with only minor distortion.

I also compared needle drops and didn't see any improvement with 3.5g antiskating.  In any case, the tiny resonances around 10 Hz are now looking to be rumble related rather than horizontal arm resonances as such.  Other turntables produce that too, though it often reaches higher in frequency with bearing noise.  The Linn keeps all it's motor and bearing noise below 10 Hz, so even though it's sizeable there it produces less coloration overall.

So it looks like 2.6g is indeed the correct antiskating adjustment, and some used records may just have asymmetrical record wear (possibly from misadjusted antiskate).

I still think an arm with much more horizontal damping would be desirable for the Dynavector cartridge.  The ultimate arm for the cartridge is the Dynavector arm with magnetic adjustable damping.

Antenna Grounds Tested


 My kitchen is now connected to 3 external antennas, two with FM whip antennas, and one shortwave antenna.  Shortly I will get foundation repair and some leveling which could potentially disrupt the integrity of their grounding (to underground rods which are "bonded" to the main panel ground through a long underground wire).

All 3 wires have coax cables coming into the house.  The shield of the coax cable of each is connected to ground in external grounding boxes.

I disconnected all 3 coax cables from their receivers and measured their voltages and resistances to one another.  There were trivially small millivolt voltages I didn't write down.  The resistances were consistently around 0.5 ohms, 0.56 was my first measurement from the front to the back coax.

But this only proves they are bonded together, not that they are bonded to house ground.  So I got a 3 light AC wiring tester, for which one line lights up if the ground is good.  I plugged that tester into a 3 to 2 wire adapter to bleed off the ground test current.  I then plugged the 3 to 2 wire adapter into a bottom ac outlet so it did not contact the plate screw (which would ground it).  I connected a wire to that to the ground tab and now I can test anything for being an "acceptable" ground to this simple tester.

I tried the sink faucet and the dishwasher panel, they are not acceptable grounds.  The "grounded" light did not light up.  (The dishwasher is perhaps "multiple insulated" and the "stainless steel" is really coated in non-conductive coating.  The sink faucet is connected via PVC pipes.)

But the Grounded light did light up when I connected the wire to the shields of each of the 3 coax cables coming from outside.

I connected an ammeter in line with the wire going to the ground adapter, and measured 1.336 mA current with each of the 3 antenna coaxes.  This was actually better than the 1.333 mA I measured going back to the ground on the same wall socket.  (By contrast, there was only 0.05mA current measured to the kitchen sink faucet, though that was noticeably higher than not being connected at all, or me just holding the wire.)

Now I have some measurements I can repeat after the house leveling.

House ground resistance is supposed to be below 5 ohms.  I'm not really measuring that, but it appears my antennas and AC outlet grounds are no more than about 0.5 ohms apart, which represents the resistance of the ground wires and coax grounds, and indicates they are all bonded to house ground.

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After the foundation piering, I retested 2 of the grounds.  The third ground is temporarily disconnected and needs to be moved but is probably ok.

I first measured the ground to the roof peak antenna, the Magnum Dynalab ST-2.  At first it read 1.3150 ma, or about 2% lower than before.  But testing the actual house ground, it was also reading about 2% lower at 1.313.  Then when I tested the ground to the Godar 1000 antenna, it measured 1.32ma.  Retesting the other antenna again, it was now reading 1.32ma also.  So it looks like 1-2% fluctuation is normal and comparing antenna ground current with house ground current at the same moment works.  (It could be the "hot" line that is varying slightly, because what I am measuring is current flow from electrical hot to test-ground through a resistance built-in to the ground tester.)

Before the foundation work was done, I unscrewed all ground wires from their ground blocks outside but left them touching for protection.  I also loosened the plastic shields around the ground wires from being attached to the house.  Before doing the re-test, I screwed the two ground wires being tested back in to their grounding blocks outside.